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		<title>By: Utah Tech Jobs &#187; How Not To Get Underpaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utah Tech Jobs &#187; How Not To Get Underpaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Not To Get Underpaid Posted in My Side of the Desk by Robert Merrill on December 16th, 2005 &#124; Popularity: unranked   So, this post (via) hits a little close to home because I don&#8217;t believe I am the type of recruiter they&#8217;re talking about here.&#160; However, I will share the following ideas for a candidate nervous he/she may be getting undervalued:  &#160;   To avoid getting snookered the next time out, do these three things: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How Not To Get Underpaid Posted in My Side of the Desk by Robert Merrill on December 16th, 2005 | Popularity: unranked   So, this post (via) hits a little close to home because I don&#8217;t believe I am the type of recruiter they&#8217;re talking about here.&nbsp; However, I will share the following ideas for a candidate nervous he/she may be getting undervalued:  &nbsp;   To avoid getting snookered the next time out, do these three things: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J Wynia</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Wynia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Prove your ability. Do a great job and you could get a sizable raise next year.&quot;

Having dealt with LOTS of recruiters (I do independent web consulting) and this kind of line always bugs me. I&#039;ve developed responses for most of it, including this one.

I respond with, &quot;Great. Will your firm be willing to stake your commission on it? I&#039;ll split next year&#039;s raise with you if you split this year&#039;s commission with me.&quot;

Basically, they&#039;re trying to get you to assume the risk without giving anything up themselves. Negotiating is about the balance of power. By the time an offer is being written up, you&#039;ve got as much power as a potential candidate that you&#039;ll ever have in the hiring process. It&#039;s the time to push back.

If you&#039;re being asked to take a leap, ask them to take one too. If they claim that a good 1st year will result in a raise, are they willing to sign an ironclad agreement to refund their commission should you get a good performance review, but no raise? They&#039;re asking you do give up *your* potential first year benefit for a promise that they likely can&#039;t actually do anything about.</description>
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<p>Having dealt with LOTS of recruiters (I do independent web consulting) and this kind of line always bugs me. I&#8217;ve developed responses for most of it, including this one.</p>
<p>I respond with, &#8220;Great. Will your firm be willing to stake your commission on it? I&#8217;ll split next year&#8217;s raise with you if you split this year&#8217;s commission with me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically, they&#8217;re trying to get you to assume the risk without giving anything up themselves. Negotiating is about the balance of power. By the time an offer is being written up, you&#8217;ve got as much power as a potential candidate that you&#8217;ll ever have in the hiring process. It&#8217;s the time to push back.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re being asked to take a leap, ask them to take one too. If they claim that a good 1st year will result in a raise, are they willing to sign an ironclad agreement to refund their commission should you get a good performance review, but no raise? They&#8217;re asking you do give up *your* potential first year benefit for a promise that they likely can&#8217;t actually do anything about.</p>
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